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What do we think?
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Personally I think that licencing and lack of investment in lower leagues, both financially and culturally, has created too big a gulf for promotion and relegation to be creditable.
I suppose the licencistas will blame the championship clubs for that tho....
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What do we think?
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Personally I think that licencing and lack of investment in lower leagues, both financially and culturally, has created too big a gulf for promotion and relegation to be creditable.
I suppose the licencistas will blame the championship clubs for that tho....
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| P&R is central to most sports.
Give the 'mediocre' clubs something to play for and watch the crowds and interest in the sport grow again at the lower levels.
Will still need some RFL governance like salary caps etc.. but P&R must come back in my humble view.
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| Promotion and relegation in its simplest form between a full time league and a part time league is just not feasible.
Only option in my opinion would be to have a 2 tier SL but also in my opinion teams like Halifax would struggle to afford to run a full time operation in the 2nd tier.
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| sounds very sensible to me - the clubs consistently at the bottom of the SL have something to fight for now instead of just being plain rubbish 
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"Promotion and relegation in its simplest form between a full time league and a part time league is just not feasible.'"
Agree.
Quote Greg Florimos BootsOnly option in my opinion would be to have a 2 tier SL but also in my opinion teams like Halifax would struggle to afford to run a full time operation in the 2nd tier.'"
We - as a game - can't really afford this, can we ? 
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| Quote Greg Florimos Boots="Greg Florimos Boots"Promotion and relegation in its simplest form between a full time league and a part time league is just not feasible.
Only option in my opinion would be to have a 2 tier SL but also in my opinion teams like Halifax would struggle to afford to run a full time operation in the 2nd tier.'"
the 2nd tier teams dont have to be all fulltime players. a 50/50 mixture is a good start, for those that get promoted they can then decide what next.
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| Quote swifty62="swifty62"the 2nd tier teams dont have to be all fulltime players. a 50/50 mixture is a good start, for those that get promoted they can then decide what next.'"
The words "yo-yo" and "club" spring to mind.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"The words "yo-yo" and "club" spring to mind.'"
So what, ask any West Brom fan if they like being labelled yo-yo club.
The fans love the excitement and thrill of P&R, nowt wrong with being a YO-YO club beats being cannon fodder every week every season.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"The words "yo-yo" and "club" spring to mind.'"
and when come back down have more money than rest so can build slowly.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"Agree.
We - as a game - can't really afford this, can we ?
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So you are saying do nowt then?
The game is thriving is it?
Could have fooled me with the recent international games which have been a disaster, poor crowds (despite nearly giving tickets away) and England despite only playing in third gear thrash France and Wales.
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| Quote griff1998="griff1998"The words "yo-yo" and "club" spring to mind.'"
Yer P&R from a semi pro league to a full time league will not be easy and vice versa, but some mechanism can be thought up that helps clubs going either way, but not too much to give them an unfair advantage over the other clubs, not sure how but with some deep thinking a formula can be worked up I am sure. Think about the interest a relegation decider will generate and especially a Championship Grand Final where you get promoted, remember Cas v Widnes!
Plus the game will not be open to the corrupt RFL deciding who goes up and who stays in SL (I have my doubts they will ever relegate a SL team), now that must be worth doing!
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| If Fax can compete and not lose vast amounts of money then we should go for it. But I also dont trust the SL clubs or the RFL and I wont be getting my hopes up any time soon things will change that much. Its OK saying SL 1 will have 12 teams but how many teams will SL 2 have and will that include teams who have links with Sl clubs? We would need a minimum of 8. so say 2 SL teams, Fax, Fev, Sheffield and Leigh then who? Toulouse maybe but then who and thats just for a 8 team league. Sorry I just cant see this happening under them ideas.
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