Now that st helens reign of terror is over, how is this going to affect their budgets. The were making steady progress to curb their huge losses each year but without reaching the final and quite possibly the grand final they are a champion team with only a harlequins expenditure to play with.

Hopefully the chairman will make cutbacks so that you guys live within your means but this may take time. Just beware of the situation that Bradford have found themselves in, hopefully your shrewd management will manage your decline better than the Bradford lot did there

huge loses to you and i are chicken feed to our chairman

Wigan seemed to have coped with it over the past decade or so



In all serious though, there are two ways of looking at it, the merchandising and prize money made versus the costs of taking the squad and staff for the weekend to London, including expenses and after match parties meals etc....

I think there is obviously a profit to be made, but perhaps not as much most people would expect.

I don't think prize money has increased in line with the revenue the final makes over the past 10 years either.

Why was money not spent on Knowsley Road then for so many years? and why did it take so long to even get to putting out request for contracts and suppliers for the new ground.

He may have more money that you and me, but he is not in the super league of millionaires! Look at what one guy did for Sale Sharks RU!

most people dont realise that Saints have to buy a certain amount of replica shirts from Puma to then sell. And the figure that they have to buy is absoloutley ridiculous, so i dont think the club will make that much money on merchandise

our reign of terror over !!!!!!! ? whos says YOU !
well bugger me it must be true


sounds just a tad like wishfull thinking old pie fool.

In this Chairmans era our focus has firmly been on the CC final because it is the most lucrative.

Cayless was the last big Money signing and Puletua the only signing in 2 years.

Although the club has improved the contracts of many of the squad I fully expected 1 or 2 more additions to soliola.

Flip side is though we should be in for a bumper year our last at the old stadium

Wigan chairman has said not going to Wembley has cost them £250.000 in extra income. I would start worrying about your own finances.

Puma also takes a slice of the cake on those shirts. However, Saints only have one year left of that agreement, though and then can more easily control the stock flow, which would be helpful on a relatively small scale. I think it's the stadium that really kills us financially. It's one big black hole.

I heard it cost saints around 300k a year to keep GPW Stadium going, getting the OK from planning then getting builders does take a while, but we will have our own ground for 2011.



This will allow the club to make money not only from the Rugby but from other events that we cant have currently at GPW.

We spend £300k a year on weed killer and cement. New stadium = financial glory. Gillette will give us gazillions instead of hundreds, blue chip companies who have wanted in for a long time will finaly come on in, we can get the odd semi or international game at teh new gaff, we can use low energy bulbs instead of parafin heaters for the main game lights, we cna hire out funciton rooms that peopel actualy want to use without the fear of smelling of damp on their clothes. We can go years without winning a bean, but we still be proper bo in the finances. A nice steady 11k yearly figure and the same amoutn of shirt sales to.

As you were at the shareholders meeting what was the profit / loss situation for the last accountable year?