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| Lets be honest we sadly see an example appear on here, who is always on red vee. That man is possibly the same mindset as Deano G. Tomkins is good in fact very good for the competition as it is now. Jamie Lyon did two years in a strong competition and was wonderful. Scully and Farrell once again outstanding in a strong competition. Sinfield and the Paul brothers had extreme influence. You pay your money you take your choice but he is not even top five for me.
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| Quote Loz="Loz"Lets be honest we sadly see an example appear on here, who is always on red vee. That man is possibly the same mindset as Deano G. Tomkins is good in fact very good for the competition as it is now. Jamie Lyon did two years in a strong competition and was wonderful. Scully and Farrell once again outstanding in a strong competition. Sinfield and the Paul brothers had extreme influence. You pay your money you take your choice but he is not even top five for me.'"
You've not even mentioned the greatest SL player of all!
Tomkins has the potential to be up amongst the best, but would need to be one of the outstanding players for another several years to be considered in such exalted company. Given he'll not be in SL beyond this year, it's moot.
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| But in my opinion I have I named Jamie Lyon. People like KC are legends and greats but I rate Robes just as highly as KC. In part due to the duck eggs he has been packing down with. Its all just opinions and that's good debate.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"viewtopic.php?f=28&t=555082&tsmp=1375219259
According to Deano G Tomkins is now the finest [i[size=150british[/size[/i player of the SL era ...
Would you agree? I wouldn't'"
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| There is as strong an argument for him being correct as incorrect IMO, Tomkins is a freakishly talented player and his presence in the Wigan side transforms them from also rans to potentially the best side in the competition.
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| I think Sam tomkins is the best current English player we have and I also think he's got freakish Talent but at this moment in time he's not the best British player ever to play super league.
He's certainly got everything needed to a great but IMO its still to early to call him the "best ever".
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| I don't even think he's the best british born WIGAN player of the super league era, let alone in super league as a whole!! 
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| Quote Dux="Dux"'"
Indeed the constraint here is British but some great names have been mentioned already
Farrell was outstanding for Wigan for many year, you could argue a complete player able to play in the forwards and backs as was Scully. Cunningham is another example , arguably at least as influential as Tomkins.
I think Tomkins sticks out at the moment because there is a dearth of top quality players in SL and he is surrounded with mediocrity at his own club.
Tomkins is a very good player but I'm not even sure he's world class yet. I guess we'll find out in the NRL when he has to perform every week against high quality opposition.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Indeed the constraint here is British but some great names have been mentioned already
Farrell was outstanding for Wigan for many year, you could argue a complete player able to play in the forwards and backs as was Scully. Cunningham is another example , arguably at least as influential as Tomkins.
I think Tomkins sticks out at the moment because there is a dearth of top quality players in SL and he is surrounded with mediocrity at his own club.
Tomkins is a very good player but I'm not even sure he's world class yet. I guess we'll find out in the NRL when he has to perform every week against high quality opposition.'"
Tomkins is a wonderful player. He has an awful lot of talent and makes spectacular things look easy.
Saints fans will now reel off a number of players, 9/10 of whom will have played for Saints. Its very easy to rate a player more highly when yu see them every week.
I will say that Tomkins is complimented by his current situation. In a salary capped game, he is playing in a more modest squad than some stars of the past. A squad that is very well coached (to the top of the league) who tailor and awful lot of their attacking play to give Sam space.
That's not to say Sam wouldn't be a star in the various great teams we've seen in SL era.
Excellent player - he'll be remembered as one of the greats, but I do think the "The Greatest" is something he has yet to achieve.
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| Quote No1 Saint="No1 Saint"Indeed the constraint here is British but some great names have been mentioned already
Farrell was outstanding for Wigan for many year, you could argue a complete player able to play in the forwards and backs as was Scully. Cunningham is another example , arguably at least as influential as Tomkins.
I think Tomkins sticks out at the moment because there is a dearth of top quality players in SL and he is surrounded with mediocrity at his own club.
Tomkins is a very good player but I'm not even sure he's world class yet. I guess we'll find out in the NRL when he has to perform every week against high quality opposition.'"
Why does Tomkins have to play in the NRL to prove he is world class, but Farrell/Scully/Cunningham/others named in this thread didn't?
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| Tomkins is a very classy player and can do things most others could only dream of, and he must definitely be up there with the best British players of SL era.
That said, the 2 that would stand out for me as better would be Scully and Farrell, both hard as nails as well as skillful and always fared up well against the Aussies. Tomkins is still only young however, and he has a lot of years to develop and get better so could end up being better than both of those by the time he finishes (although personally I hope he gets better in NRL away from where he can do any damage to us)
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