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| Wires71:ninearches:
I suggest ,apart from possibly the Challenge Cup, we are way off the pace this year. Play Leyland & blood as many kids as he can ,they deserve a chance at least to show what they can do especially if some of them could be our first teamers for next year. The team needs to be showing enthusiasm & laying down a marker to opponents right from the kick off .Too many times we are having to play catch up rugby.
I agree, absolutely nothing doing this season unless we get lucky in the cup against Leigh and meet Hull KR on an off day at Wembley. There is no point in another away game playoff plucky loss. No, play the young squad members so they get experience and we can decide which of those will be truly good enough for 2026 and where the recruitment gaps will be. George William's contract is up end of 2026 anyway and he'll be 32 so we need to have a proven life-after-George and Sneyd plan in any case. I suggest now is also a time to have a clean broom on those players who are out of contract for this season. Toby King - a centre with pace please and ability to beat a man please. Rodrick Tai - dittoPaul Vaughan - 1 year extension or thanks for the memories, our best prop but age catches up with everyone. Sam Powell - was just what we needed last season but I think age is catching up on him. Zane Musgrove - thanks for the memories. Too little, too late fella. Jordan Crowther - thanks for the memories, just not top level SL standard, down on performances from 2024, and blocking progression from the youth. Stefan Ratchford - thanks for the memories. I'm sure you'll be on the Wire old boys scheme somewhere. Connor Wrench - he's 24 this year. needs to play this season and deliver on potential and show he is over the injuries, or we should allow him to pursue opportunities elsewhere. Heard Castleford wanting Vaughan
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| Yes if I remember right you were one of those who was saying even in 2019 after winning the Challenge Cup that things weren't right and it was papering over the cracks.
But also I soured on Price quite early which is unlike me because pretty much every other Wire coach I've held belief in for too long. I was arguing for Cullen, TS and Powell on here long after others had given up on them and were calling for a change. My standard argument was to be careful what you wish for...change isn't always for the better (I was burned on this by the DVDV to Plange/Anderson transition). But with Price, even I could see that he'd run his course pretty early on and I felt we'd be treading water for the rest of his time in charge, despite the fact that our league position was always 3rd-4th.
The other thing I remember from the Price era was at the end of every season lefty goldblatt would post a long critique of all the things that were wrong, lack of leadership, players in comfort zone etc, and he was saying the same thing every year. That's not a dig at lefty, it's a reflection of the fact none of the issues ever got sorted out. We were the same team with the same limitations throughout Price's reign.
Now...the big question for this year is, are we repeating the same pattern with Burgess that we did with Price. Improvement and encouragement year 1 and losing at Wembley then stalling in year 2. There are some ominous signs but I'm not writing Burgess off early like I did Price. Sometimes you have external factors that affect things and I don't feel like we're a busted flush at this point. We'll see how things develop.
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| We were rubbish in 2019 & won the CC against all expectations. We were rubbish in ,was it 2017 (?) when Tony Smith fell out with the sport. All the time i have watched the Wire ,they fail with such repetition at the last hurdle. The Wire are a club for die hard fans & not for trophy hunters. I don't remember them being champions except for what i've read in record books & our best chance for silverware is probably always going to be the Challenge Cup.
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| ninearches:
We were rubbish in 2019 & won the CC against all expectations. We were rubbish in ,was it 2017 (?) when Tony Smith fell out with the sport. All the time i have watched the Wire ,they fail with such repetition at the last hurdle. The Wire are a club for die hard fans & not for trophy hunters. I don't remember them being champions except for what i've read in record books & our best chance for silverware is probably always going to be the Challenge Cup.
I think that argument is fair up until 2004 but 2 decades later we have very wealthy owners, full cap spend, great facilities and we are always told a great squad (or at least an expensive one). So I think it is fair for fans to hold an ambition for a GF win. If Hull KR can aim for that - why the hell can't we?
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| sally cinnamon:
Now...the big question for this year is, are we repeating the same pattern with Burgess that we did with Price. Improvement and encouragement year 1 and losing at Wembley then stalling in year 2. There are some ominous signs but I'm not writing Burgess off early like I did Price. Sometimes you have external factors that affect things and I don't feel like we're a busted flush at this point. We'll see how things develop.
I'm not writing him off either, but some concerning signs are creeping back in. It would be so Warrington to extend his contract in the next few months rather than wait and see.
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| At least under Price we could defend and had a bit of resilience. How can we be 9th in a 12 team league where two of the teams are Huddersfield and Salford? The recruitment has been nothing short of disgraceful.
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