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| I was at a Community Club event at Odsal the other week and was talking to a man, I think his name was Jamie or Jason, who is the academy director.
Thanks to the budget cuts from the RFL, to run a full Academy set up (and Reserves now), costs us around £200k, which leaves us a massive challenge to then invest and compete with the likes of Leigh and Fev.
So my question to you all… is… in order to be more successful on the pitch would you bin off the Academy and spend that money on better players/ full time even though there’s no guarantee it’ll work?
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| Keep for me. I understand the temptation in that we probably won't see those developed players at their peak, and we could buy a few more top first team players. But big names don't always mean good performances.
Long term if we scrapped it, we'd lose all those links and relationships we have with the community clubs. Would take years to get those back.
Also our current better players (Doyle, Scurr) and previous better players (Ryan, Pickersgill) were all home grown. Underneath that we've got the likes of Lewis Camden, George Flanagan jr who could make an impact.
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| 200k isn't going to dent our biggest problem so may as well retain...
Until one of us wins big on the EuroMillions a fills the dump in that problem will stay with us.
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| Quote Scarey71="Scarey71"200k isn't going to dent our biggest problem so may as well retain...
Until one of us wins big on the EuroMillions a fills the dump in that problem will stay with us.'"
This, plus the point above about maintaining relationships with our community clubs. We should keep it. One day I hope we have the money to take full advantage.
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| In a way this question is framed the wrong way around
Why are Featherstone and Leigh NOT required to spend £200K running an Academy rather than being able to buy in players from the NRL, thus creating an uneven playing field?
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| I think Beaumont at Leigh is not really interested in the bigger picture. He is willing to spend the big bucks but wants almost instant success and a place back in SL.
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| To be honest I thought Beaumont had applied to run an academy but was refused?
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| Quote paulwalker71="paulwalker71"In a way this question is framed the wrong way around
Why are Featherstone and Leigh NOT required to spend £200K running an Academy rather than being able to buy in players from the NRL, thus creating an uneven playing field?'"
Probably because the RFL told them, and others, that they weren't allowed to run an Academy....
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| Quote Peter Goddard="Peter Goddard"I think Beaumont at Leigh is not really interested in the bigger picture. He is willing to spend the big bucks but wants almost instant success and a place back in SL.'"
You are totally wrong there , Derek said a couple of years ago he wanted to invest in an Academy side , but was turned down by the RL , folk keep talking as if he’s a fickle fly by night , but he is a very Loyal man and we are lucky to have him in charge , and he’s been in charge nearly 10 years now , and has stated he will be at Leigh for a while yet .
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"To be honest I thought Beaumont had applied to run an academy but was refused?'"
Very true mate , Derek was told Leigh wouldn’t be allowed to run an Academy side , so he puts his heart and soul into having a decent squad .
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| The RFL don't want academies being run by anyone other than SL clubs if they're in existing RL heartlands. Hence our troubles earlier this season.
I guess the benefits of having an academy depend on how well it's run. Is our still as well run as it was when John Bastian was in charge?
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| The dilemma is that the better the academy performs, producing quality players the less the club benefits as they move on.
If £200k is the figure then what is that as a proportion of the budget and what does a top end Championship player earn? Would there be a small group of players earning £40k, with an even smaller group at full time clubs earning what Leulia and Asiata are getting? On the basis of these total guesses, do we get 4 or 5 top end championship players benefit? If Leigh/Fev are touching a million we must be nearer 600k so that is a huge chunk. Worth it?
I'd say No. If anything the benefit goes to other clubs who we're competing with for a place in SL. The club never made a song and dance about the academy until McNamara when it became a distraction from what was happening on the field.
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