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| If he picks the tem on form this is how it should look but ive no doubt he will pick experience:
1.Sam Tomkins
2.Charnley
3.Goulding
4.Thornley
5.Richards
6.Green
7.Smith
8.Crosby
9.Micky
10.Mossop
11.Hansen
12.Tuson
13.Lockers
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Logan
Taylor
Burke
Hampshire
Ive probably raised a few eyebrows with that team but realistically Farrell looks burnt out of late and needs a rest and tuson has been playing well and looks fresh, cant see how we can leave hampshire off the bench. Why no Dudson or Flower - Because they cost us the game agaisnt Saints. Dudson needs to curb his temper, maybe being a bit harsh on Benny he had a nightmare against stains but he is still a bit rusty from injury.
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| Gelling has to be in there. Didn't have the best game on Monday but he deserves his place.
I'd start with Taylor, because he was outstanding on Monday, with Flower and Dudson on the bench. Go full strength, this is a semi final.
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| I think you're being a bit harsh. Flower made a couple of errors and so did Gelling.
Gelling made more metres than any other Wigan player, from the centre position, and has been playing well up until Monday. Thornley was poor for his last few games.
I agree about Dudson, he needs to calm down,
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| I'd play Thornley over Gelling if he's fit. Gelling a still very raw and Monday really showed how far he needs to improve to hold a centre spot. Thornley for me offers more in attack and take out the odd defensive lapse and I've been quite happy with him. As a side issue, is Hughes injured or just out of favour?
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| Players under threat for me-
Gelling- I like him but he's too up and down and Monday wasn't great. We know he can make metres but errors in big games will kill us.
Green- His forms been way off since he came back. I'd still play him but we need more from him or else Hampshire may take his spot.
Dudson- Too many penalties and runs the ball in at half pace not using his size. He wouldn't be in my first choice 17.
I'd go-
Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Thornley
Richards
Green
Smith
Mossop
McIlorum
Crosby
Hansen
Farrell
Lockers
Subs
Flower
Taylor
Tuson
Hampshire
It is nice to have some options.
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| If he picks on form then i see no reason for Gelling to be dropped. Yes, he didnt have his best game on Monday but none of the team did
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| If he picks on form then Smith and Farrel should be no where near that team.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I think you're being a bit harsh. Flower made a couple of errors and so did Gelling.
Gelling made more metres than any other Wigan player, from the centre position, and has been playing well up until Monday. Thornley was poor for his last few games.
I agree about Dudson, he needs to calm down,'"
You know I quite like Gelling but I do think Thornley has been treated a touch harshly (I think he needed a rest but my comments are more about Wanes perception of Thornley).
Up until end of May one massive positive for me was that there had hardly been any talk of Carmonts loss this season.
A couple of games later and a dip in Thornley's performances (hardly a massive dip for me?) and Gelling comes in.
I have been encouraged by Gellings performances (You know my thoughts on kick return plays etc.) but still believe that Thornley is the better long term bet for this position (I also see Gelling better right side than left if im honest but Goulding seems to have that nailed down).
I agree that Farell does look a touch fatigued but nowhere near as much as Burke who has looked like a "plodder" last 2/3 games.
Flower was poor on Monday but for me his problems were more to do with basic errors than any lack of effort etc. so for me he would be in along with Taylor who I thought changed the game in our favour when he came on Monday by straightening up our go forward.
So for me :-
1.Sam Tomkins
2.Charnley
3.Goulding
4.Thornley
5.Richards
6.Green
7.Smith
8.Flower
9.Micky
10.Mossop
11.Hansen
12.Farell
13.Lockers
Subs:
Logan
Taylor
Crosby
Tuson/Dudson
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| Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Gelling
Richards
Green
Powell
Taylor
Micky Mac
Mossop
Hansen
Tuson
Lockers
Flower
Dudson
Hampshire
Hughes
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| Anyone suggesting Farrell should be 'dropped' due to poor performance have lost the plot.
He needs a couple of the weeks rest after the semi final as he looks fatigued. But I'd love to know how many times he took the ball up against Saints along with his tackle count. He's almost working too hard as it's negating his attacking threat.
In terms of props, I'd go with Mossop and Crosby starting with Taylor and Lauaki off the bench. Gelling should continue, I think if we stick with him he could prove himself to be a big threat at centre IF he can cut out the brain explosions.
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| Quote Bostonslugholes="Bostonslugholes"If he picks the tem on form this is how it should look but ive no doubt he will pick experience:
1.Sam Tomkins
2.Charnley
3.Goulding
4.Thornley
5.Richards
6.Green
7.Smith
8.Crosby
9.Micky
10.Mossop
11.Hansen
12.Tuson
13.Lockers
Subs:
Logan
Taylor
Burke
Hampshire
Ive probably raised a few eyebrows with that team but realistically Farrell looks burnt out of late and needs a rest and tuson has been playing well and looks fresh, cant see how we can leave hampshire off the bench. Why no Dudson or Flower - Because they cost us the game agaisnt Saints. Dudson needs to curb his temper, maybe being a bit harsh on Benny he had a nightmare against stains but he is still a bit rusty from injury.'"
I see where you're coming from but I'd definitely want 2 props on the bench, that's just a given in RL these days. I can't even think of the odd exception like Fielden, Peacock or Farrell a decade ago who would do 80 minutes at prop.
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| Well as Wigan have no proper centres any 2 out of the 3 will have to do, but I bet I know who Waney will pick!
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