It looked like a max of 62,000 Long gone are the days of 90-97,000 for the challenge cup final

That's because Wigan fans couldn't be d

I reallly don't know what's happening to the game lately. Yes, Euston being closed was a pain, but that's just an excuse for anyone who didn't really want to go.

The way we're playing might have knocked a couple of thousand off, but even still, it's Wembley, the Challenge Cup Final, it's disappointing.

But that said, whilst others will gleefully take the about our following, the final has always been largely boosted by neutrals. Maybe Magic Weekend has killed it off. Seeing shirts of other clubs, they're in their ones and twos now when it used to be big groups of them back before Wembley reopened.

No one can knock the RFL for the pricing. You won't watch any major event for less than yesterday. Even close to it compared to football. The marketing might not be as good as it could be, but for anyone logging on here to laugh at us, it's the wider game that needs to look at itself just as much. None of our clubs are big enough to come close to filling half of a 90,000 ground, the RFL need to be aiming at selling 30,000+ tickets to fans of other clubs and others from Union or from the South that are interested in seeing something different for a knock down price (which it already is).

Well, I would say 20k Wigan fans made the trip. It's the missing 10k that 'couldn't be d' as you so eloquently put it. Why do you think that is?

Hull hardly outnumbered us

Exactly what I thought. But to get back on topic, for me Wembley has had its day and we need to move on, the stadium doesn't have the same feel as it used to have. The challenge cup has gone stale and needs a new lease of life one thing they could do is revert back to all clubs being in it from round one and more importantly move it to the start of the season.

Really you can see can't you its the first time I've seen a completely empty top tier it was a very poor show from a club with a big fan base who always travel well

You reckon? I presume a good chunk of your fans were sat in the Hull end then?

The comments coming out of hull was that it would be a 2/1 or maybe 3/1 outnumbering however that clearly wasn't the case, unless a lot of your guys bought tickets but failed to show up!

The rfl said 3 to 1

Wigan bring the same as fc the crowd would be nearly 80000

the RFL were wrong then saw about 15 hull fans in our end both top tiers were nearly empty

I know what you mean re: Wembley, but at the same time, there are only three other stadiums in the country that could host even yesterdays crowd, the lowest in years. You wouldn't want to use Old Trafford as it would take away from the Grand Final, we probably couldn't use Twickenham with their restricted number of events (and it would have all the same problems as Wembley bar a first year novelty factor), which leaves the Millennium Stadium. I wouldn't be opposed to hosting games there (Magic for instance), but just feel the game would lose some some status in the national eye if we were to leave Wembley. Anywhere else other than Wembley is downgrading really, we just need to get the marketing right. At the prices that the RFL were selling at surely it isn't that difficult to find 30,000 neutrals/interested Londoners?